Buckle at Plainmoor again.

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Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by stevegull » 20 Mar 2013, 22:28

NickGull wrote:I credit him for that. The 4 years were good, theres no denying it. However the way he screwed us over when we had a real chance of promotion still cuts deep.
Agreed. I never said he wasn't successful for us. He was great for us on the whole. Dragging us up from the conference and into the Play Offs a few seasons after. Buckle had a great record for us. He left us in terribly shadey circumstances.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by Plymouth Gull » 20 Mar 2013, 21:02

I credit him for that. The 4 years were good, theres no denying it. However the way he screwed us over when we had a real chance of promotion still cuts deep.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by yellowmonkey » 20 Mar 2013, 20:52

My ten pence worth is can you not remeber were the club was under him and were it is at now. Give the guy some credit we did have some good cup runs.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by SuperNickyWroe » 20 Mar 2013, 19:23

stevegull wrote:I'm with SNW on this issue.

I wouldn't have minded as much if he simply stated "I've taken this side as far as I can" and announced his intentions to apply for the Rovers job. Instead, he undermined our very real chances of promotion by saying nothing. The squad was clearly affected by this. They basically failed to turn up for some of the last games that season; let alone the actual Play offs. Our teams was absent in that final. The way he left all our key player's contracts run out reaked of dishonesty. If he intended to stay there was no way he would have let all those contracts run out. Total disrespect to the club, and terribly unprofessional.

To return to the premise you are all suggesting - that if Joe Average left his job to try and get a better one. It's fine for Joe Average to go to a better job. It is not okay for him to disrupt the rhythm of the office and then try and poach some of his best pals to join him at his new company
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well put steve.

i cant believe that some posters forget this is how he treated our club.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by stevegull » 20 Mar 2013, 19:14

I'm with SNW on this issue.

I wouldn't have minded as much if he simply stated "I've taken this side as far as I can" and announced his intentions to apply for the Rovers job. Instead, he undermined our very real chances of promotion by saying nothing. The squad was clearly affected by this. They basically failed to turn up for some of the last games that season; let alone the actual Play offs. Our teams was absent in that final. The way he left all our key player's contracts run out reaked of dishonesty. If he intended to stay there was no way he would have let all those contracts run out. Total disrespect to the club, and terribly unprofessional.

To return to the premise you are all suggesting - that if Joe Average left his job to try and get a better one. It's fine for Joe Average to go to a better job. It is not okay for him to disrupt the rhythm of the office and then try and poach some of his best pals to join him at his new company.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by SuperNickyWroe » 20 Mar 2013, 19:11

Gullscorer wrote: Oops! Sorry SuperNicky, I meant SNW. :Oops: I was thinking of cod roe at the time... =D
charming. :-/

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by Gullscorer » 20 Mar 2013, 19:08

SuperNickyWroe wrote:quote="Gullscorer"] Lighten up, SNR. It's only PB we're talking about... ;-)[/quote

SNR??? :@ :~D
Oops! Sorry SuperNicky, I meant SNW. :Oops: I was thinking of cod roe at the time... =D

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by SuperNickyWroe » 20 Mar 2013, 18:53

cambgull wrote: Well, actually, was he really that sneaky? Would you openly tell any company that you are intending to leave when your new job isn't sorted? Some might say yes, some no, depends usually on the situation. But would you tell the customers you're dealing with? Of course you don't. You would never tell your customer tell you're leaving before having a job sorted because they won't have confidence in the product you're selling.

If you actually think about some of the stuff you hate people in football for doing, then compare to what people around the world do every day, without anyone batting an eyelid, you really wouldn't see many differences.

Yes.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by SuperNickyWroe » 20 Mar 2013, 18:52

Gullscorer wrote: Lighten up, SNR. It's only PB we're talking about... ;-)
SNR??? :@ :~D

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by Gullscorer » 20 Mar 2013, 18:33

SuperNickyWroe wrote:quote="Gullscorer"] Then you would welcome him to Plainmoor if his visit meant a win for Torquay.. Great..!! :~D[/quote

what you on?
Lighten up, SNR. It's only PB we're talking about... ;-)

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by cambgull » 20 Mar 2013, 18:31

SuperNickyWroe wrote:agree with that bit.

the problem was the sneaky,underhand and cunning way the weasel did it.
Well, actually, was he really that sneaky? Would you openly tell any company that you are intending to leave when your new job isn't sorted? Some might say yes, some no, depends usually on the situation. But would you tell the customers you're dealing with? Of course you don't. You would never tell your customer tell you're leaving before having a job sorted because they won't have confidence in the product you're selling.

If you actually think about some of the stuff you hate people in football for doing, then compare to what people around the world do every day, without anyone batting an eyelid, you really wouldn't see many differences.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by Plymouth Gull » 20 Mar 2013, 18:24

cambgull wrote:
I've left jobs to go to what I thought was a better job, only to regret it. Doesn't mean that you don't enjoy the company of the people you worked with and the job you were doing. Added to that, football is entertainment.
That's fine, and I understand that. As SNW says though, it was the way he did it.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by SuperNickyWroe » 20 Mar 2013, 18:07

cambgull wrote: I've left jobs to go to what I thought was a better job, only to regret it. Doesn't mean that you don't enjoy the company of the people you worked with and the job you were doing. Added to that, football is entertainment.
agree with that bit.

the problem was the sneaky,underhand and cunning way the weasel did it.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by cambgull » 20 Mar 2013, 18:04

NickGull wrote:If he has a soft spot then surely he wouldn't have screwed us over the way he did in 2011? If he cared in the slightest he'd have had the decency to wait until our season was over before sorting his future out. He's a tool, I think it's a total non-event that he has been at Plainmoor recently and I would imagine it's more to do with the kids theory.
I've left jobs to go to what I thought was a better job, only to regret it. Doesn't mean that you don't enjoy the company of the people you worked with and the job you were doing. Added to that, football is entertainment.

Re: Buckle at Plainmoor again.

by SuperNickyWroe » 20 Mar 2013, 18:02

Gullscorer wrote: Then you would welcome him to Plainmoor if his visit meant a win for Torquay.. Great..!! :~D
what you on?

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