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UnitedinDevon wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 17:31 It's not even a discussion for me, GJ took us down and now is showing his inability to adapt to get anywhere near the best out of the current group

We have no playstyle, identity, plan B and with the poor recruitment and training ground/fitness/injury issues he should have gone YEARS ago not months

Even by some microscopic miracle he takes us up there is too much water under the bridge to go back

Any other football club in the land would have sacked this ineptitude but that leads to the person who has the power to do so....

By YEARS ago do you mean the season when Torquay finished 2nd in the National League and were beaten in the Play-off Final or do you mean the year before last when the club only managed 11th place? The hyperbolic CAPITALS might even suggest that you would have dismissed Johnson before he was even appointed, which would of course have prevented the ineptitude to which you refer. (I am sure that it's not just other football clubs who would like to know the secret of how one can sack ineptitude - perhaps you could enlighten us as it is somewhat similar to knitting water.)

BigDave wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 19:32 By YEARS ago do you mean the season when Torquay finished 2nd in the National League and were beaten in the Play-off Final or do you mean the year before last when the club only managed 11th place? The hyperbolic CAPITALS might even suggest that you would have dismissed Johnson before he was even appointed, which would of course have prevented the ineptitude to which you refer. (I am sure that it's not just other football clubs who would like to know the secret of how one can sack ineptitude - perhaps you could enlighten us as it is somewhat similar to knitting water.)

He means around 18 months ago when it was obvious the squad he had was incapable of achieving anything on the national league and clearly looked like relegation fodder, which is exactly what played out.

You think you are being clever with your post here but actually all you are doing is showing poor humour, poor judgement and a lack of class.

WestLondonYellow wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 19:50 He means around 18 months ago when it was obvious the squad he had was incapable of achieving anything on the national league and clearly looked like relegation fodder, which is exactly what played out.

You think you are being clever with your post here but actually all you are doing is showing poor humour, poor judgement and a lack of class.

2-2.
I find it difficult to see a Gulls clean sheet irrespective of who the opposition are.

WestLondonYellow wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 19:50 He means around 18 months ago when it was obvious the squad he had was incapable of achieving anything on the national league and clearly looked like relegation fodder, which is exactly what played out.

You think you are being clever with your post here but actually all you are doing is showing poor humour, poor judgement and a lack of class.

Absolutely spot on should have been gone 18 months ago.

WestLondonYellow wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 19:50 He means around 18 months ago when it was obvious the squad he had was incapable of achieving anything on the national league and clearly looked like relegation fodder, which is exactly what played out.

You think you are being clever with your post here but actually all you are doing is showing poor humour, poor judgement and a lack of class.

If he means MONTHS then why does he say YEARS? Is it an attempt to show how clever he is - being wise before the event, rather than after it? (Perhaps he can answer for himself.)
Poor humour is better than no humour at all and gallows humour appears to be what is necessary on this site with all the Johnson detractors seeming to think that hanging, drawing and quartering would be too good a fate for him: were they all baying for his blood after that Hartlepool encounter in June 2021? Fickle, fair weather fans with a sense of entitlement that is not based realistically on the club's achievements should be hoping that Johnson can produce some better results rather than taking a negative stance. If a new manager takes over the reins and fails to get Torquay United into a higher division within a year or so, will UnitedinDevon, WainwrightGull, WestLondonYellow, et al be proclaiming that they knew that that would be the case? If Johnson stays and somehow manages to achieve promotion there will doubtless be some Damascene conversions among those harbingers of doom so blessed with omniscient hindsight.

Based on we can not score and we always concede, I predict;

Farnborough 2 Torquay 0.

Farnborough 1 Torquay 1

2-2

BigDave wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 22:27 If he means MONTHS then why does he say YEARS? Is it an attempt to show how clever he is - being wise before the event, rather than after it? (Perhaps he can answer for himself.)
Poor humour is better than no humour at all and gallows humour appears to be what is necessary on this site with all the Johnson detractors seeming to think that hanging, drawing and quartering would be too good a fate for him: were they all baying for his blood after that Hartlepool encounter in June 2021? Fickle, fair weather fans with a sense of entitlement that is not based realistically on the club's achievements should be hoping that Johnson can produce some better results rather than taking a negative stance. If a new manager takes over the reins and fails to get Torquay United into a higher division within a year or so, will UnitedinDevon, WainwrightGull, WestLondonYellow, et al be proclaiming that they knew that that would be the case? If Johnson stays and somehow manages to achieve promotion there will doubtless be some Damascene conversions among those harbingers of doom so blessed with omniscient hindsight.

It has been poorly managed BD rewind and remember when the injuries caught up with us when we were leading the league ! The same GJ that failed to game manage them and did not get cover and we ended in the lottery of the play offs. Oh and blame the ref , nothing to do with his failure to see us over the line was it !
It has gone sadly downhill from that day. Keeping faith with out of date crocks , and dont get me in the soft lads he has recruited is down to him. Change should of happened long ago and most of us know it.

Farnborough 3 - 1 Torquay

BigDave wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 22:27 If he means MONTHS then why does he say YEARS? Is it an attempt to show how clever he is - being wise before the event, rather than after it? (Perhaps he can answer for himself.)
Poor humour is better than no humour at all and gallows humour appears to be what is necessary on this site with all the Johnson detractors seeming to think that hanging, drawing and quartering would be too good a fate for him: were they all baying for his blood after that Hartlepool encounter in June 2021? Fickle, fair weather fans with a sense of entitlement that is not based realistically on the club's achievements should be hoping that Johnson can produce some better results rather than taking a negative stance. If a new manager takes over the reins and fails to get Torquay United into a higher division within a year or so, will UnitedinDevon, WainwrightGull, WestLondonYellow, et al be proclaiming that they knew that that would be the case? If Johnson stays and somehow manages to achieve promotion there will doubtless be some Damascene conversions among those harbingers of doom so blessed with omniscient hindsight.

Welcome, Lee

BigDave wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 22:27 If he means MONTHS then why does he say YEARS? Is it an attempt to show how clever he is - being wise before the event, rather than after it? (Perhaps he can answer for himself.)
Poor humour is better than no humour at all and gallows humour appears to be what is necessary on this site with all the Johnson detractors seeming to think that hanging, drawing and quartering would be too good a fate for him: were they all baying for his blood after that Hartlepool encounter in June 2021? Fickle, fair weather fans with a sense of entitlement that is not based realistically on the club's achievements should be hoping that Johnson can produce some better results rather than taking a negative stance. If a new manager takes over the reins and fails to get Torquay United into a higher division within a year or so, will UnitedinDevon, WainwrightGull, WestLondonYellow, et al be proclaiming that they knew that that would be the case? If Johnson stays and somehow manages to achieve promotion there will doubtless be some Damascene conversions among those harbingers of doom so blessed with omniscient hindsight.

It's interesting that you mention the Hartlepool play off final because that's when Johnson should have been sacked for blowing the best chance this club will probably ever have of getting back to the FL. Instead, Johnson was given a contract extension during that season and it's been down hill ever since.

Desmond.